Comments on: A Sun Employee Likes Rails Too!! http://www.ryanripley.com/55-ruby-on-rails-update-1 Business, Technology, Movies, Rants and anything that I think is cool or worth bitching about. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:03:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Shawn Oster http://www.ryanripley.com/55-ruby-on-rails-update-1#comment-97 Shawn Oster Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:28:16 +0000 http://www.ryanripley.com/?p=55#comment-97 Actually that's *not* what is suprising. What is suprising is that he hasn't been set on fire by McNeilly. I happen to live 10 minutes away from a major Sun campus and there are a *huge* amount of people that I've known that have worked there that a) highly dislike Java and b) love either .NET or Ruby (or like both, like me). Actually that’s *not* what is suprising. What is suprising is that he hasn’t been set on fire by McNeilly.

I happen to live 10 minutes away from a major Sun campus and there are a *huge* amount of people that I’ve known that have worked there that a) highly dislike Java and b) love either .NET or Ruby (or like both, like me).

]]> By: Roman Strobl http://www.ryanripley.com/55-ruby-on-rails-update-1#comment-85 Roman Strobl Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:38:52 +0000 http://www.ryanripley.com/?p=55#comment-85 Interesting... I didn't know that. Anyway Ruby on Rails is the framework that made people aware of continuations, I think. David Heinemeier Hannson is a very good evangelist. Interesting… I didn’t know that. Anyway Ruby on Rails is the framework that made people aware of continuations, I think. David Heinemeier Hannson is a very good evangelist.

]]> By: Tony http://www.ryanripley.com/55-ruby-on-rails-update-1#comment-84 Tony Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:21:18 +0000 http://www.ryanripley.com/?p=55#comment-84 Hmm, I missed the part where Rails uses continuations: <em>Some of the most popular frameworks started to support continuations</em> <a href="http://cocoon.apache.org/" rel="nofollow">Cocoon has had continuations since before Rails was a twinkle in DHH's eye.</a> Hmm, I missed the part where Rails uses continuations:

Some of the most popular frameworks started to support continuations

Cocoon has had continuations since before Rails was a twinkle in DHH’s eye.

]]> By: Roman Strobl http://www.ryanripley.com/55-ruby-on-rails-update-1#comment-83 Roman Strobl Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:19:26 +0000 http://www.ryanripley.com/?p=55#comment-83 Hi, do you know what does Ruby on Rails need to really get into the mainstream? One of the large IT companies standing behind it. Btw, I really think that frameworks such as JSF and even Java EE have their place on the world. Ruby on Rails solves very well the problem of creating web applications with a database backend. Being a long time PHP programmer, I realize how much cleaner the code can be with Ruby. And I really enjoyed building simple web applications with Rails. But it's not a solution for all the world's problems, sometimes visual component-based development is something your team needs and sometimes you need to build really large systems which scale, are redundant and integrate with legacy systems - and are heavily transactional. Ruby on Rails needs to be ready for such problems if it wants to replace Java in the enterprises. Did you notice that the Java world is being influenced by Ruby on Rails? Some of the most popular frameworks started to support continuations, there's a lot of simplification going on with annotations and convention over configuration - which is a really good thing. Did you also notice that Sun is adding support for scripting languages? It started by <a href="http://www.ociweb.com/jnb/jnbFeb2006.html" rel="nofollow">JSR 223</a> which enables scripting languages to be tightly integrated into the Java platform and it will continue with JDK 7 with the planned special bytecode for dynamic languages running on top of the JVM. I am looking forward to see more scripting languages on Java platform and I hope that one day I will be able to use the powerfull frameworks and libraries from the Java world with a scripting language such as Ruby. This combination would be just very cool. Hi, do you know what does Ruby on Rails need to really get into the mainstream? One of the large IT companies standing behind it.

Btw, I really think that frameworks such as JSF and even Java EE have their place on the world. Ruby on Rails solves very well the problem of creating web applications with a database backend. Being a long time PHP programmer, I realize how much cleaner the code can be with Ruby. And I really enjoyed building simple web applications with Rails. But it’s not a solution for all the world’s problems, sometimes visual component-based development is something your team needs and sometimes you need to build really large systems which scale, are redundant and integrate with legacy systems - and are heavily transactional. Ruby on Rails needs to be ready for such problems if it wants to replace Java in the enterprises.

Did you notice that the Java world is being influenced by Ruby on Rails? Some of the most popular frameworks started to support continuations, there’s a lot of simplification going on with annotations and convention over configuration - which is a really good thing.

Did you also notice that Sun is adding support for scripting languages? It started by JSR 223 which enables scripting languages to be tightly integrated into the Java platform and it will continue with JDK 7 with the planned special bytecode for dynamic languages running on top of the JVM.

I am looking forward to see more scripting languages on Java platform and I hope that one day I will be able to use the powerfull frameworks and libraries from the Java world with a scripting language such as Ruby. This combination would be just very cool.

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